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Fast Jet to CPL MEIR (fATPL)

 

Difference between a CPL MEIR and an ATPL is explained here.

There are plenty of ways to achieve your licence, but we have set out below what we believe is the easiest and most cost effective route. Due to Brexit and the UK leaving EASA, these credits are only available for UK CAA licences.

 

CAA Class 1 Medical - For a CPL (ATPL) you need a CLASS 1 medical. It is best to do this after your exams, unless you think you might encounter problems. Initial medical must be done by a CAA approved centre and there can be a long wait. CAA Medical Centres

ATPL Theory Exams - Now it's time to start ATPL ground school. 14 exams in various subjects. You have 18 months from the first sitting to the last sitting to complete the exams. You have 6 sittings in total and you can take any 1 exam up to 4 times before having to start again. You can use ELCAS for this if you're registered. We recommend Bristol Ground School (BGS), Skyborne, or Path2Pilot. They supply the books, exam materials and online material. As a military FJ pilot you don't need to complete the course, just pass the exams. The best way is to use their courseware, crammer sessions and 14000 actual questions. Break this down into 3 or 4 exam sittings and it's easily manageable. BGS run a mix of online self-study and crammer sessions. Path2Pilot are a good option for pilots based in Scotland and want to attend their crammer sessions near Edinburgh. Skyborne offer a online course with weekly online lessons, a useful option if you're posted overseas. Their course is run by mainly ex-RAF instructors and they offer a discount via UKFlying.

With the recent change to ATPL theory exams post Brexit (UK CAA / EASA / Both), we recommend you speak to us regarding your options before booking any ATPL theory courses. Use the contact form at the bottom of this page, we can then explain your options.

 

Once you've passed the ATPL theory exams you need a few more bits, a Class 1 medical, a multi-engine rating, CPL skills test and an Instrument Rating. You also need a APS MCC / MCC and A-UPRT certificate if you're going onto multi-pilot commercial aviation.

 

Multi Engine Piston (MEP) - Our advice here is simple. Use a school with a modern training aircraft like the DA-42. It doesn't have cowl flaps, carb heating, mixture control, rpm settings, 6 levers, turbo charger boost limits. It just has 2 power levers (1 for each engine), forward for fast and backwards for slow, the computer does the rest. Passing your MEP is all that matters, especially if you're going onto the airlines. These aircraft also have full glass cockpits with GPS, this makes it all so much easier. Use another ELCAS amount for this. Course is a minimum of 6hrs of which 3:30hrs must be flown as asymmetric instruction, before taking the MEP test. 

 

CPL Skills test - As a military FJ pilot you are exempt the CPL course, but need to pass the CPL test on a SE or ME aircraft. The test costs approx £850 (to the CAA) plus the cost of the aircraft. This can be combined with the MEP test, this is the cheapest and best option. You now have a CPL and you can receive money for flying.

 

Instrument Rating (IR) - Training to a standard to pass an IR test, but must be at least 5hrs instruction in instrument flying in Multi-Engine aeroplanes, of which 3hrs may be in a sim. This test is also easier in an aircraft with a glass cockpit, GPS, self tuning nav aids and an autopilot, like the DA-42

The following companies run UKFlying military designed CPL MEP IR (fATPL) courses. These courses use all available CAA military credits and are designed to be as efficient as possible. UKFlying is a free to use service for military pilots. We'll ensure that you get the right course based on your military experience at the lowest price. You'll be linked to a Dropbox account with all of the pre-course reading material, including exam guides, DA-42 tech and examiners favourite test questions! This will make the conversion process much easier and reduces the time you need to be away from work. By booking through UKFlying you're enabling us to maintain the lowest course rates for military pilots.

Costs based on a FJ pilot with an unrestricted GREEN rating:

CPL + MEIR - Skyborne (Gloucester) - Skyborne operate DA-42s from modern facilities with good sims. They are one of the best options for military conversions. The cost is £10631 (2023 price) for the MEP, CPL and IR depending on experience and they have a DA-42 sim. The price include aircraft and sim hire, instruction, approach fees, landing fees and aircraft hire for the 2 tests. CAA examiner fees are included which cost £827 for each of the 2 tests. You can use SLC and IRTC against this course along with ELCAS. Use the contact form below for more details.

CPL + MEIR - ACS (Perth, Scotland) - ACS have modern DA-42 aircraft at their Perth airfield. They are a great option for pilots based in Scotland or at the Northern bases. They are ELCAS registered and keen to assist military pilots. Their FJ conversion course is £TBC for 2023 and they have extremely limited availability for the remainder of the year. Use the contact form below for more details.

CPL + MEIR - Aeros (Various) - Aeros have availability to assist military pilots and their courses are ELCAS approved. £11380 (2023 price), plus 2 CAA exam fees which are currently £850 per test.

Once you have achieved the items above you will be issued with a UK CAA Part-FCL licence. If you want to fly a multi-pilot plane (airline / business jet) then you will also require an APS MCC / MCC and A-UPRT certificate.

 

Airline Pilots Standard Multi-Crew Co-operation Course (APS MCC) / (MCC) - Required before starting your first multi-pilot type ratings (airline, business jets, etc). The course is a mix of ground school and simulator time, learning how to operate large aircraft as a crew. We recommend choosing a provider with modern A320 or B737 simulators as this will assist with airline assessment and make the training more realistic. We work with multiple operators in this area, many who provide a discount for military personnel via UKFlying. Contact UKFlying for more details and the discount codes.

Which course do you require?

MCC is 2-weeks long, APS MCC is normally 3-weeks long and both are best completed in a B737 or A320 sim. The APS MCC has an extra 20hrs of sim training over the MCC, and is therefore more expensive. 


One of the reasons for the APS is due to many cadets failing initial Type Ratings due to a lack of familiarity with Multi-Pilot (MP) operations. The extra week of training on the APS helps with this, but it passes the training cost onto the student. 


Regulations state you only need a MCC and we haven’t heard of any military pilots struggle with a Type Rating, but a few major airlines have stated that an APS MCC is required to apply. 


Only the MCC is credited for military ME and Rotary MP types, no APS credit. 


Depending on what job you want to go to, you will have to choose between the courses, or pick a company that can upgrade your MCC to an APS if later required. Contact UKFlying if you want to discuss your options.

UKFlying recommended APS MCC companies:

 

Jet Masterclass use a modern B737-800 sim at Gatwick airport. Industry leading training with excellent feedback from previous military personnel. APS MCC £7194, MCC £4194. Discounts available via UKFlying.

VA Airline Academy use both  B737 and A320 sims for their APS MCC and MCC courses. They are located at Duxford and Cambridge airport with modern training and briefing facility. APS MCC £6900, MCC £TBC. They offer discount codes for military personnel via UKFlying and are also ELCAS approved.

Skyborne offer the APS MCC on a new B737-MAX sim at Gloucester. APS MCC £6000

Advanced - Upset Prevention and Recovery Training (A-UPRT)There is a  requirement to complete an Advanced UPRT-Aeroplane course before starting an initial multi-crew type rating (Airlines, business jets). There is currently no military waiver against this requirement despite years of trying.

UKFlying recommends Ultimate High as the best option for military pilots. The instructors are either ex-CFS military or airline pilots with significant aerobatic experience. Their course is ELCAS approved, can be completed in a single day from Goodwood and uses Slingsby Firefly T67 and Extra 300 aircraft, which are great fun! They also offer a 15% discount via UKFlying for UK military personnel. More details here.

Once you've completed a Type Rating (TR) course for an airline you will get a frozen ATPL, which will unfreeze once you have 1500hrs total with 500hrs on multi-pilot aircraft.

 

If you're a QFI or QPI then you can also use military credits for the issue of a FI. The Flying Instructor rating is a useful and fun addition. You need a few sorties at the discretion of a Head of Training at an ATO to get you to a standard to pass the FI check. It no longer matters what grade of QFI you are, just need to be a QFI (CtoI, B2, B1, A2). More details here.

After spending the time and money on all of the items above you want to make sure you get a job as quickly as possible. You will need to create a professional CV and you need to be prepared for the airline or job selection process. It really is worth spending a few extra pounds getting this right as you might only get one shot with a major UK airline.

 

We strongly recommend you get in touch with Andrew at flightdeckwingman who is ex-Navy and now works for BA. Further details on flightdeckwingman can be found here, He offers a military discount via UKFlying, get in contact for more details.

If you want more details, quotes or advice on any of the courses or companies above, then please use the contact form below.

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